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Knine
11-19-2007, 09:42 AM
Useful Information...Hopefully No 1 will ever have to use it.





I am not only a rider but an Orthopaedic surgeon who specializes in Sports injuries, particularly motocross I have read all the posts, and would like to attempt to educate my brother and sister off road motorcyclists about ACL injuries.

First and foremost, MX is the most physically demanding and ACL demanding sport around. Compared to MX football is for wusses. I don't even have to bother comparing it to soccer, field hockey, volleyball, lacrosse and other sports that normal people who want to live to 100 years old participate in.


After an ACL rupture, the injured rider must start immediate rehabilitation. These centers on exercises to regain range of motion, strength, and a normal gait. We recommend Advil 4 tabs, 4 times per day, and the stationary bike one hour per day every day. It may take a few days to work up to this, but generally within a week an injured rider can do it. We don't recommend immobilization or crutches after a day or so. ABSOLUTELY CONTRAINDICATED IS EARY EMERGENCY SURGERY. I put that in caps because, when an operation is done acutely (right away) the risks of persistent stiffness is high. BTW, all the posts that talked about people's second, third, and fourth operations, came about because of stiffness, called in the medical field, Arthrofibrosis. This is entirely preventable if you wait and take your time.

Another question has come up regarding choice of graft. People have rightly opined that an allograft (from a dead person, usually an injured motorcyclist who was not wearing a helmet) will enable them to have the fastest recovery from the surgery. Those that opined that is possible to get AIDS from this graft are correct, but the chances are too low to be a part of the decision making process. Allografts would be the answer if they were live tissues. Unfortunately, they are dead (of course, they are from a cadaver). The athlete's body needs to replace this dead tissue with live tissue. This will occur over a period of a year. During that year, the only activity that is allowed is bicycling. Now, I know someone will say that they went back to riding at two months and they are fine. They would be provided they never have a bad get off. If so the allograft is in the trash. Most of Houston's local MX pros and star amateurs have had an allograft for their FIRST ACL procedure. I don't recommend allografts for MXer. They are fine for middle school teachers, who belong to a health club.

Hamstring tendon and patella tendon from the injured knee work. However, then the knee has to suffer from the operation and the ravages of the graft harvest. Harvest of hamstring tendons don't cause a lot of trouble when they are harvested, but since that tendon does not have bone at the end of it, the tendon much heal to the bone. This is an uncertain process and takes about eight months to a year to mature, in spite of new fancy and expensive screws. Remember, screws can't cause stuff to heal, despite what the commercials say. It just can't happen. Therefore the injured MXer is relegated to the stationary bicycle for a year.

When the patella tendon is utilized, it has bone at both ends and bone to bone healing, which is highly reliable is complete in one month. Further the tendon is alive, and an injured MXer can be back in the bike as soon as his knee feels well. This usually takes six months. It takes six months because of the ACL surgery and the graft harvest. In fact the total temporary disability associated with the graft harvest and the surgery is greater than what you would expect from simply adding these two problems together.

So, to summarize, the patella tendon graft can get an injured MXer back by as little as one month post op, if the darn knee didn’t hurt so much. Six months seems to be the shortest period prior to return to riding.

We believe that we have developed a solution to this problem which can get guys back by as little as three months. As our Clinic, we harvest the patella tendon from the OPPOSITE knee. Our strategy is that we divide the problem amongst both knees. The ACL knee, get over the procedure rapidly, just like it would in an allograft case. However, this graft is alive, and is recognized by the body as itself. The bone blocks heal in a month, and the tendon stays strong in its new job as a ligament. By three months, the knee feels well enough to compete in MX, and its safe to do so because, the bone blocks would have healed and the living tendon stays strong in its new job.

Now, on the day of surgery, the opposite knee is started on a program to regain strength in the quadriceps. This continues for the same three months that the ACL knee needs before return to competition. By three months, both knees are good to go.

Now someone may ask if now a guy has two bad knees. In fact not. Injured riders at our Clinic are able to walk 300 feet the afternoon of their surgery without crutches, and never ever utilize crutches, braces, or casts in the early period. (The choice of a sports brace after rehabilitation is the subject of another post) The day of surgery everyone is able to move each knee from hyperextension to 120 degrees of flexion. Although I recommend that guys take it real easy the first week, and spend that first week in bed, the wake boarder I did last Friday, took his girlfriend to a wedding that next day.

Some may have heard that after a patella graft is taken people have anterior knee pain. That doesn't occur when the donor knee is not the ACL knee.
Others may have heard that you can't kneel after this procedure. Again, this doesn’t occur when the donor knee is the ACL knee. For good measure, we bone graft the defects in the patella and upper tibia to avoid excessive stresses on the bone remaining.


A few words about screws and such. At Sanders Clinic, we do not use screws to hold in the grafts. We tie heavy sutures over buttons which sit outside the bone. These buttons do not irritate the soft tissue and never need to come out. Furthermore, the tension in those sutures can be adjusted after I take the knee through 30-50 cycles of a full range of motion before I close the wound. With screws, once you put it in, you have to hope for the best, as if it’s too tight, the guy will never again fully straighten or bend his knee. The other advantage is that these buttons sitting on the outside of the bone will not cause a hole in the bone if they ever need to be removed for a revision of the ACL surgery and don't get in between the bone graft and the host bone, so healing can occur from all sides. (Remember, if the ACL is fixed perfect, and rehabbed perfectly, is not guaranteed against a really bad get off, and surgery may be necessary to rebuild it again. I don't mean to scare your guys, but as an MXer, I know what things can happen.) So, if revision surgery is necessary for a retear, it can be done in one stage rather than a first stage for removal of screws, and bone grafting, then another definitive operation 10 weeks later. Everything I mention is this paragraph is designed to avoid further operation that will not only cost us money, but take us away from our bikes.

I have way more to say on this issue, so below is the link to the Sanders Clinic Webpage on ACLs. Read it, the following pages, view the illustrations and the FAQs, and read the testimonials. Look also at the links for Salvage of Failed ACL procedures.
Here they are: http://sandersclinic.net/aclrehab.html
http://sandersclinic.net/common_salvageacl.html

If brother or sister riders have questions, they can post them on this, PM me, or call my cell phone listed below.

Good luck and Safe riding,
drmark
CRF 250 #57
Mark S. Sanders, MD
Houston, Texas
Cell: 713.907.6076

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drmark
CRF 250 #57
www.sandersclinic.net
cell phone: 713.907.6076
Houston, Texas

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BigMike
11-20-2007, 08:25 AM
That's good information. In 1993, I was racing at Budd's Creek in Southern Maryland on my sweet 1992 YZ 250 and was trying to rail a berm. I got about half way around the corner when my right foot caught a hole and caused my right knee to hyperextend. I immediately thought I had broken my leg at the knee (that would have been the second time). When I lifted my foot back up onto the peg, my entire leg was shaking so bad I could not use the brakes. I immediately knew something was wrong. Ended up that I completely split my ACL in two pieces and tore up a bunch of meniscus. I had the meniscus repaired orthoscopically and never had the ACL fixed. 15 years later I am still riding and my knee does not give me any trouble whatsoever. I was told that if you are a serious athelete, by all means get it fixed. If your physical activity is of a limited nature, there is nothing wrong with just letting it remain torn. I guess the knee is more vulnerable now that my ACL is history but it seemed like a reasonable gamble at the time.

Mike

Knine
11-20-2007, 08:40 AM
Mike,
It's been 61/2 wks since I been able to ride the Cr..
The Knee is getting better but, yesterday @ the Gym....I tried to ride a Stationary bike and was unable to complete a rotation of the pedals.

there was a little pain not much. The Knee just feels tight above & behind the knee!

This all started after along day @ Lakeland! No get offs! felt fine after loading the bike...Then when I drove back to Tampa, as i was exiting the car..The Left knee just lock up!

So, what do u think is going on with the Knee?


???
2)What was the down time on the meniscus repair?
3)Do u wear some sort of Brace or protection of the knee now?

BigMike
11-20-2007, 10:53 PM
Before I had the meniscus repaired, I was having a problem with my knee kicking backwards during normal walking. Several times, I was simply walking around the house and fell flat on my face. Each time that would happen, it would be two weeks or so before I could bend my knee even a few inches. The tightness was incredible but it gradually loosened up. After the meniscus surgery, I never had another problem and the down time was only a few weeks.

Mike

Andy9933
11-20-2007, 11:26 PM
Knee injuries arent fun. This is an x-ray of mine

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa316/Andy9933/10-03-06_1101.jpg

Knine
11-21-2007, 02:05 AM
Knee injuries arent fun. This is an x-ray of mine

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa316/Andy9933/10-03-06_1101.jpg


What happen there?


How does it effect u're riding & everyday activities?...

Andy9933
11-21-2007, 06:50 AM
not really besides pain.It hurts often

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa316/Andy9933/at13.jpg

TRXasaurus
11-21-2007, 08:32 AM
not really besides pain.It hurts often

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa316/Andy9933/at13.jpg

damn what about this poor poor bike. awwwwww it looks like its DOA :eek:

BigMike
11-21-2007, 10:43 AM
Holy shizznit. Your knee looks like an Erector set. The picture of your bike is the reason I have come to dislike street bikes, especially in Florida. Dirt bikes are much safer:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::eek:.

Mike

Andy9933
11-21-2007, 06:03 PM
yeah if you hit a tree its your own fault.....but I did hit a dirt bike on my quad at croom :rolleyes:

Knine
11-22-2007, 02:10 PM
not really besides pain.It hurts often

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa316/Andy9933/at13.jpg



I guest ..I just need to "Tough" it Up...Then!:o

Knine
11-22-2007, 02:19 PM
Holy shizznit. Your knee looks like an Erector set. The picture of your bike is the reason I have come to dislike street bikes, especially in Florida. Dirt bikes are much safer:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::eek:.

Mike



This is the reason...After 27 yrs& hearing Brain, talk about the Dirt....I chose to buy a Dirt bike!

I ride very Aggressive on The Street & Track....And Would rather Deal with the Injury's 1 recieve's from hitting The Dirt, then the 1's U recieve...On the Asphalt!

Andy9933
11-22-2007, 06:15 PM
A good friend told me when I bought my bike once you THINK you can ride SELL IT.If I would of listened to him it would of never happend.I rode 14 mile wheelies over 100mph and thought I was good and it would never happen to me.Then some one pulls out in front of me while I was doing 45 mph and changes your life forever.....Thats just an e-ray of my knee,I had a compound fracture to the same leg,a metal rod from my knee to my anckle.Tore my rotator cuff and fractured my shoulder,broke a pinky,loss 35% of muscle in my arm.6pins,a metal rod,14 stitches and 98 staples later Im here.Every morning I get out of bed I remember it like it just happend.I would never wish it on anyone.